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How well did you sleep last night?
Do you wake up feeling rested?
Today, Jay welcomes renowned neuroscientist, sleep expert, and bestselling author Dr. Matthew Walker to unpack the profound importance of sleep and how it shapes every facet of our health and wellbeing. Bestselling author of Why We Sleep, Dr. Matthew Walker brings scientific rigor and heartfelt clarity to one of the most misunderstood and underestimated aspects of our lives.
Matthew opens the discussion by challenging the myth of the 'eight-hour rule.' While the average adult does best with seven to nine hours of sleep, the focus quickly shifts beyond just duration. Instead, Matthew introduces a more holistic four part framework—Quantity, Quality, Regularity, and Timing, or QQRT. This framework highlights how sleep is not simply about how long one sleeps, but also how deeply, how consistently, and how well it aligns with our natural biological rhythms.
Jay and Matthew's conversation also tackles common disruptors of restorative sleep, including caffeine, alcohol, and excessive exposure to artificial light. Dr. Walker discusses how these elements can interfere with the brain’s ability to enter deep and REM sleep, the latter being especially important for emotional processing, hormonal regulation, and memory consolidation. Sleep, it turns out, influences far more than individual health.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Know If You’re Getting Enough Sleep
How to Improve Sleep Using the QQRT Formula
How to Align Your Sleep With Your Body’s Internal Clock
How to Avoid Waking Up Tired Every Morning
How to Optimize Your Evening Routine for Better Sleep
How to Fall Back Asleep After Waking Up at Night
How to Diagnose Sleep Apnea at Home
With scientific insight and practical wisdom, the episode paints a vivid picture of how sleep, when prioritized and protected, can serve as a catalyst for healing, clarity, and sustainable energy.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:12 The Four Metrics That Define Great Sleep
06:03 Can You Actually Change Your Sleep Cycle?
09:45 Why You Wake Up Tired—Even After a Full Night’s Sleep
14:29 What Sleep Apnea Really Is and Why It’s Often Missed
19:21 The Body-Wide Damage Caused by Sleep Loss
23:20 The Hormone That Increases Late-Night Cravings
28:42 Best Types of Food to Eat Before Bed
33:48 How Late-Night Eating Disrupts Your Sleep Rhythm
37:23 The Truth About Melatonin Supplements
40:47 Should You Give Melatonin To Your Children?
44:25 The Evolution of Sleeping Pills Explained
52:36 The Best Nighttime Routine For Optimal Sleep
55:07 Three Practical Tricks to Fall Back Asleep
01:04:58 What It Really Takes to Clear Caffeine From Your System
01:08:01 Surprising Health Benefits of Drinking Coffee
01:10:02 How Alcohol Quietly Ruins Your Sleep
01:13:06 Can Sleeping Well Actually Make you More Successful?
01:16:40 The Real Risks of Losing Just One Hour of Sleep
01:21:16 What Regular Sleep and a Digital Detox Can Do For Your Life
01:22:45 Why Weekend “Catch-Up” Sleep Doesn’t Work
01:24:09 The Overlooked Link Between Sleep and Mental Health
01:27:32 How Poor Sleep Fuels Loneliness and Disconnection
01:30:58 Why Self-Forgiveness Might Be the Ultimate Sleep Tool
Episode Resources:
Matthew Walker | Website
Matthew Walker | Instagram
Matthew Walker | LinkedIn
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